The price is huge in Germany for tuning!
The price is huge in Germany for tuning!
Is this only for chiptuning??? 1000€!!!!!!!
http://ww2.amb-tuning.de/produkte/chipt ... di/s6.html
They are also wrong on the "4.2i V8 (340 PS)". Do they now what they do?
http://ww2.amb-tuning.de/produkte/chipt ... di/s6.html
They are also wrong on the "4.2i V8 (340 PS)". Do they now what they do?
- Joe Klugmann
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Don't chip this car, remove the vmax barrier.
PS: http://www.ts-tuning.net
I think Marc can wrote more...![Sehr glücklich :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
MfG
Joe Klugmann
PS: http://www.ts-tuning.net
I think Marc can wrote more...
![Sehr glücklich :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
MfG
Joe Klugmann
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Near limit??
4.2 litre and 326 hp is not huge for the engine, mabye this geabox.
Could ts-tuning get that 40 Nm limiter?
I heard he sad he could get 25-30 Nm.
The S4 Turbo has 420 Nm with most chip and alot more with some else, i never heard about any gearbox failing. If you dont drive like a maniac every day i think it would go fine. Audi dident do the gearbox at the limit to start with i hope, in that case they where![Böse :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
4.2 litre and 326 hp is not huge for the engine, mabye this geabox.
Could ts-tuning get that 40 Nm limiter?
I heard he sad he could get 25-30 Nm.
The S4 Turbo has 420 Nm with most chip and alot more with some else, i never heard about any gearbox failing. If you dont drive like a maniac every day i think it would go fine. Audi dident do the gearbox at the limit to start with i hope, in that case they where
![Böse :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
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The 20V Turbo has a diffrent gearbox, it´s not the same one like the V8-gearbox! I think the Turbo-gearbox is limited official at 460NM, but I´m not sure anymore.
Buy the way, that gearbox-problem isn´t new. All Audi V8 since 1997 are limited in NM, if they have a manual gearbox. The automatic-gearbox is able to take 560NM, the RS6 would have normally about 650NM! It´s limited to 560NM only for the Tiptronik!!!
Yes, Tom is able to release that NM-limiter, but I won´t do that.
Buy the way, that gearbox-problem isn´t new. All Audi V8 since 1997 are limited in NM, if they have a manual gearbox. The automatic-gearbox is able to take 560NM, the RS6 would have normally about 650NM! It´s limited to 560NM only for the Tiptronik!!!
Yes, Tom is able to release that NM-limiter, but I won´t do that.
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That are the information auf rsmodels.net, aren´t they?
I´m not sure, but I think, that those information are wrong or only the datas of the tiptronik-version. Because official they make no diffrence between manual and tiptronik gearbox. But I´m sure, that their are differences.
By the way, I´m Admin at rsmodels.net, too. And those information are from me...![Winken :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
I´m not sure, but I think, that those information are wrong or only the datas of the tiptronik-version. Because official they make no diffrence between manual and tiptronik gearbox. But I´m sure, that their are differences.
By the way, I´m Admin at rsmodels.net, too. And those information are from me...
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Hi Guys
I am driving since two month now my UPsolute-Tuning.
The engine is much smoother and hangs now very nice on the accelerator.
The vmax-limter is also off - but for Switzerland not really necessary ...
Last week I installed the racing airfilter from BMC type Porsche 911. Now it goes another bit easier and it turns also easier in the higher rpm-regions. => http://www.bmcairfilters.com/infoCON2.asp?Type=1
The next two weeks I will reprogram my chip once again and will make then a performance measurement.
About the gearbox: I do not think, that you will destroy it, because in the normal traffic you will not drive a long time with high torque ...
An example, found on the net: http://www.sect.ch/ben/car/Messung_Audi_S6+.pdf
Regards
Ben
I am driving since two month now my UPsolute-Tuning.
The engine is much smoother and hangs now very nice on the accelerator.
The vmax-limter is also off - but for Switzerland not really necessary ...
Last week I installed the racing airfilter from BMC type Porsche 911. Now it goes another bit easier and it turns also easier in the higher rpm-regions. => http://www.bmcairfilters.com/infoCON2.asp?Type=1
The next two weeks I will reprogram my chip once again and will make then a performance measurement.
About the gearbox: I do not think, that you will destroy it, because in the normal traffic you will not drive a long time with high torque ...
An example, found on the net: http://www.sect.ch/ben/car/Messung_Audi_S6+.pdf
Regards
Ben
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Denn ein Avant - ist ein Familienauto ...
... und mit über 300PS geht's einfach
schneller ins Wochenende!
Denn ein Avant - ist ein Familienauto ...
... und mit über 300PS geht's einfach
schneller ins Wochenende!
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Marc and some other people remember, that I'm interested too in chiptuning my PLUS.
But, that the gear-box is built only for 400 Nm that's a really new insight for me. (...and it occures me
)
Are you really sure, that this is true?
On the one side I wondered already, why the PLUS have the same torque, as the normal S6 V8 have. Normally if an engine has more power, it has also more torque...
But on the other side I can't understand, why the gear-box of the V8-engines is not built to stand more torque, than that one for the 5 cylinder-engines. And what about the S8's ? Do they have another gearbox for those 340 HP / 410 Nm -engines (and their havier cars)?
I'm one of those drivers who care a lot about their PLUS, and I'd like to drive it at least for the next 5 years....
But why not to optimize a bit the compromise, which always must be done in a engine software? Do you really believe, the risk of a broken gear-box is that big?
Have you heard a lot about broken ones?![Frage :?:](./images/smilies/icon_question.gif)
But, that the gear-box is built only for 400 Nm that's a really new insight for me. (...and it occures me
![Geschockt :shock:](./images/smilies/icon_eek.gif)
![Mit den Augen rollen :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Are you really sure, that this is true?
![Frage :?:](./images/smilies/icon_question.gif)
![Frage :?:](./images/smilies/icon_question.gif)
![Frage :?:](./images/smilies/icon_question.gif)
On the one side I wondered already, why the PLUS have the same torque, as the normal S6 V8 have. Normally if an engine has more power, it has also more torque...
But on the other side I can't understand, why the gear-box of the V8-engines is not built to stand more torque, than that one for the 5 cylinder-engines. And what about the S8's ? Do they have another gearbox for those 340 HP / 410 Nm -engines (and their havier cars)?
![Überrascht :o](./images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif)
I'm one of those drivers who care a lot about their PLUS, and I'd like to drive it at least for the next 5 years....
![Winken :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
But why not to optimize a bit the compromise, which always must be done in a engine software? Do you really believe, the risk of a broken gear-box is that big?
![Frage :?:](./images/smilies/icon_question.gif)
Have you heard a lot about broken ones?
![Frage :?:](./images/smilies/icon_question.gif)
"...und denkt daran, ein plus ist ultra"
Grüsse romulo
Grüsse romulo
- David van Eyk
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Roland,
I did a Kind of a chip tuning to my car.
And I´m really satisfied. ofcourse the difference isn´t as big as if you chiptune a turbo car..but I noticed it.
I wrote my experiences in a forum on www.rs6.com , if you are there , than go to cmmunity, than to rs6/s6...and put s6plus in the search machine...
there you will find my comment![Winken :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
I did a Kind of a chip tuning to my car.
And I´m really satisfied. ofcourse the difference isn´t as big as if you chiptune a turbo car..but I noticed it.
I wrote my experiences in a forum on www.rs6.com , if you are there , than go to cmmunity, than to rs6/s6...and put s6plus in the search machine...
there you will find my comment
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Untill now I heared only about one big harm, that was a broken PLUS-engine in Danmark with a hole in the side. But I knew only about 40 PLUSes, that is not enough to say anything...
That thing with the torque is nearly 100% sure. The gearbox is technical from 1992, at that time nobody thought, that say need more. Everybody of us know, how much a PLUS-gearbox costs and everybody knows, that the chance to get a used one is nearly zero. I won´t risk that.
Those people, who knows me, will have noticed, that my PLUS is on perfect conditions at any time. The car gets everything, what he need and allways by a official Audi-dealer. On the other side I bring my car often to the limit, not only to reach it, I hold it for kilometers. Under this circumstances I won´t risk anything, everything must be perfect. Chiptuning is nothing for my use...
That thing with the torque is nearly 100% sure. The gearbox is technical from 1992, at that time nobody thought, that say need more. Everybody of us know, how much a PLUS-gearbox costs and everybody knows, that the chance to get a used one is nearly zero. I won´t risk that.
Those people, who knows me, will have noticed, that my PLUS is on perfect conditions at any time. The car gets everything, what he need and allways by a official Audi-dealer. On the other side I bring my car often to the limit, not only to reach it, I hold it for kilometers. Under this circumstances I won´t risk anything, everything must be perfect. Chiptuning is nothing for my use...
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...hi david!
yes I know, don't you remember me, we posted already!
I'm not so much frightened about the engine, because I don't drive such long distances in the fullpower-range (as f.e. Marc does...
)
It's especially the insight of the damage of the gearbox which occurs me so much, and that points out perhaps only after more than a year....
Sorry I wont make to feel you unsure, but it's very important for me.
yes I know, don't you remember me, we posted already!
I'm not so much frightened about the engine, because I don't drive such long distances in the fullpower-range (as f.e. Marc does...
![Lachen :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
It's especially the insight of the damage of the gearbox which occurs me so much, and that points out perhaps only after more than a year....
Sorry I wont make to feel you unsure, but it's very important for me.
"...und denkt daran, ein plus ist ultra"
Grüsse romulo
Grüsse romulo